tiger does it, hyuck hyuck. 4. (used to hook, now after lessons - ongoing - cannot hook even if i try to.. still hope to get back to a nice draw..) . In most instances, this means investing in high-tech golf bending machine that allows you to adjust your clubs by about two degrees. Mine are bent 2 strong to offset my high ballflight. R11S 8* square; Stock stiff They are just tweaking the sets to fit their distance needs. Using a club bending machine to change the angle on a golf club is among the fastest ways to improve a players ball flight. YOU have to be in control trajectory in your iron play, tweaking your specs is just a bandaid. In addition, once a club is bent to a given specification, it will stay there until changed by an outside force of either bending again or striking a hard object. 8 iron 38 160 Currently I'm playing 712 MB's with x100 shafts at standard loft. Do you have any recommendations for drills or things to practice in order to improve it? thanks, Any help would be much appreciated! Whether its changing the lie to improve accuracy or changing loft to make sure that the players clubs are progressively consistent, angle bending is a major factor in club performance. Please contact Patrick Gallagher at 800-437-1314 or email patrick@mitchellgolf.com. The most easy 'drill' is just hit it lower visually place a hoola hoop a few feet downline and hit the ball through it. Players have been doing this for a long time. Even with limitations, many of todays metal woods are indeed bendable, especially stainless-steel heads. You cannot paste images directly. Do you just go by the distance you hit them, and if you don't like your gaps you bend them a little? I am 6 ft tall but have short arms and stand upright so standard clubs are horrible for me. Believe it or not, my spin loft used to be worse, but I'm kind of in a rut right now. Currently I'm playing 712 MB's with x100 shafts at standard loft. 2 degrees up from what? Some people do it to improve their ball flight, while others do it because they think that their golf clubs have been poorly manufactured. Looking For Advice or Feedback, Stealth 3 Wood, Unique Odyssey, RTX Raw, Epic Flash, Ping Eye 2 BeCu 1 iron - $1,000here me out, Your Choice of EvnRoll ER11v Mallets ($210), Titleist Scotty Cameron Futura X7M Putter and Stitch Polo XXL NWT, NEW Taylormade Stealth 2 Plus 9 deg. more upright = more of a draw, more flat= fade. So, for the sake of your irons, take your clubs to a custom fitter if you plan on bending them. Coops, Thanks but I'm more curious about launch angle. YOU have to be in control of trajectory in your iron play, tweaking your specs is just a bandaid. How Much Does 1 Degree of Loft Affect Distance? - Golfing Schools enjoy the game and enjoy your new irons: standard lie, loft and length works for 90% of recreational golfers. Here are the lofts of the irons in that set. By [quote name='Kenny Lee Puckett' timestamp='1441131685' post='12246270'] The 2-degree limit is only recommended when changing the lofts on irons due to the potential effect such bends will have on the sole angle of the club. You would still have to take the next club down to get to the distance you want. Swing: [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRK_GXV7rDg"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRK_GXV7rDg[/url] (Driver FV) Add in the added forgiveness of modern irons, and you have a winning combination. Golf is hard enough without a bag full of easy swings an choke downs? Titleist Response to USGA / R&A Distance Insights. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. I'm curious about this as well. IMO there is no reason to start bending your Titleist strong dude. When this happens, its usually the result of some type of inconsistency in the metallurgy of the club. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. And that changes the flight of the ball right? It can be re-bent without any adverse effect on it. What Weaker Lofts or Weakening Lofts Means in Golf Testing for correct lie angle is very easy - they'll put some tape along the sole of the club and get you to hit balls off a lie board (just a hard surface, can use the mat also but a good flat hard surface makes the mark easier to see). The cb301 had an x100 and the blade had a modus 125x. GIVEAWAY! Perhaps he likes the look of offset and that's how he chooses to get it done. Although the process is relatively straightforward, its all about fine margins, and you can get it wrong if you dont know what youre doing. You could bend them stronger but like anything there's a chance something breaks. Now tilt the club grip end down a bit so that the club's toe comes up off the ground a fair bit and you'll see the pencil now points subtantially more leftward than before. The #1 reason for doing this is it changes how the club will sit on the ground. Maybe get a cheap 6 or two off eBay and try it? . My swing has changed over the years a fair bit, yet i've always needed irons a bit upright from standard (a Euro standard although even that isn't really set in stone or anything).. If he had a decent swing he most likely would be playing irons 4-5 deg. I know a guy who is about 5'6" and has shortish arms for his size. Believe it or not, my spin loft used to be worse, but I'm kind of in a rut right now. [/quote] Taylormade Aeroburner TP 15* GD AD-BB 7x A standard golf shop, or fitting center will be able to do this. [/quote] Bending Golf Clubs: 5 Facts & Fallacies Irons bent strong? - WRX Club Techs - GolfWRX Check out our video: how-to bend your clubs on a Mitchell Golf Angle Machine: Get Bending! While the result of bending strong may be that short/mid irons go further, it won't help on the top end of the bag. The biggest effect is on the bounce. get to work on improving your spinloft with your irons (I'm assuming this gets really really bad with you shortest clubs). Let me know what you think of the idea and/or if you have other suggestions to control my spin/launch, I'd love to hear them. '19 Apex Pro 5-A w/PX IMO there is no reason to start bending your Titleist strong dude. 6-iron spin: 6850 RPM 9% choose stiff+ iron shafts, a flex in-between stiff and extra stiff, but over 70% use either extra stiff or tour extra stiff iron shafts. There's a reason good players don't just grab any club off the rack and change their swing to match the clubs. 6-iron - 26.5 degrees. Lie angles are easiest to adjust in forged irons; sometimes not possible to adjust in cast irons. To avoid this, make sure to take your irons to a golf pro at least once a year. In our forums, our members have been discussing modern irons with stronger lofts and whether they are easier or harder to play than older irons. Or do people change launch angle to decrease bounce? The 4 iron will have a negative bounce if you bend them 2 degrees. You would still have to take the next club down to get to the distance you want. [quote name='Kenny Lee Puckett' timestamp='1441131685' post='12246270'] I agree with these two reasons here. Now, your club is set to be at the right lie angle for YOU at impact - and now it is up to YOU whether that's ok or whether you need to fix a hook or slice tendency. The most common reason for playing a stronger loft is to fill a gap in the bag, usually the long irons (lots of 4 irons bent strong) but throughout the set it would be uncommon to see more than 1* difference from standard either way. get to work on improving your spinloft with your irons (I'm assuming this gets really really bad with you shortest clubs). For example, when the club is flat, the toe of the club makes contact first and gets slowed down a bit so the clubface opens a bit promoting a fade. [/quote] There does seem to be an abrupt cut off on the minimum iron loft at slower swing speeds. [/quote] 6-iron spin: 6850 RPM Upload or insert images from URL. Callaway Apex Pro 16 KBS Tour V x So for many, playing an upright lie with your irons is a quick and dirty fix for those who can't or don't want to take the time to fix a swing flaw. You can also bend the angles to a consistent specification precisely fit for any golfer. Why do Pro's and some amatures have their irons bent 1* stronger. Does the aggressive swing impart that much more dynamic loft and create that much more spin? You can easily bend the lofts and lies to be progressively consistent from one club to the next with zero tolerance. 6 iron 29 183 6 iron SS: 95.5 mph Callaway XR Pro 9* Matrix Red Tie 65x It is common for a golfer with a swing speed of 70-to-80 mph or less to hit the ball with a lower trajectory . I am now thinking I am just going to bend my 712 Ap2 irons to the 714 AP2 specs so my gaps will match up better with my wedges. You need to make sure that bending your clubs is right for your game, as you dont want to jeopardize what you already have. Started Yesterday at 10:25 AM, Please put and questions or comments here, Please put any questions or comments here. ), Are Cobra Golf Clubs Good? [/quote] [quote name='clemsondds' post='1858228' date='Aug 1 2009, 07:36 PM']Ok thanks ya'll. Abandoned Golf Courses for Sale (How Much?). Upload or insert images from URL. 6-iron spin: 6850 RPM I have read that if you bend 1 degree strong you lower the bounce on the iron. That isn't the best or correct way by any means.it's just a tool. PING's i210 are the second most popular with 8 using them. Why Pros Hit Their Irons so Far? | Golf Tips & Lessons The truth about strong lofted irons | Today's Golfer I read your comments on why some bend lofts on iron sets strong and i try to swing smooth because to me swinging hard offers little to no benefit ,please remember im talking about me and not others in general , i have lost speed on my swing over the last 5 years where it was noticable to me , but i truly started losing speed after my rotator cuff and bicep tendon tear on my right arm , i cant say it was a noticable difference but that is when it started in 2010 is when i started bending all my irons strong because of lost distance because i was hitting irons 1/4 to 1/2 a club different and it progressed over the next few seasons to a full 1/2 a club or about 2 degree's and then came a hip replacement in 2014 and when i got back to playing regularly i was bending a 46 degree wedge to 43 degree / 9 iron 39 degree's and so on and i did that to try to get to the same distance i had in 2010 where i hit GW 110 / PW 120 /9 iron 130 and it progressed from there ..